Post by alika on Sept 14, 2015 19:48:13 GMT
Questions: Provide an answer and quote for each..
1. What does the word "Gor" mean?
Gor is the planet in which Goreans live. The word is also where they live which is also every Gorean's Home Stone so Gor also means Home Stone.
"Gor," he said, "is the name of this world. In all the languages of this planet, the word means Home Stone." He paused, noting my lack of comprehension. "Home Stone," he repeated. "Simply that."
"Tarnsman of Gor"
2. How important is the homestone to Goreans?
Goreans value their Home Stone. Their Home Stone is where they live and also what they would fight for. The Home Stone is so important that Free Women who share the same Home Stone are protected by the men of that Home Stone so that shame and misfortune would not happen to that Home Stone. Every free person in Gor has a Home Stone unless they are outcasted or an outlaw. To be without a Home Stone means to be an outlaw.
"There is a saying on Gor, a saying whose origin is lost in the past of this strange planet, that one who speaks of Home Stones should stand, for matters of honor are here involved, and honor is respected in the barbaric codes of Gor."
"Tarnsman of Gor"
"Where a man sets his Home Stone, he claims, by law, that land for himself. "The Home Stone says this place is mine, this is my home." "Magicians of Gor"
"Perhaps the most significant difference between the man of Earth and the Gorean is that the Gorean has a Home Stone, and the man of Earth does not. It is difficult to make clear to a non-Gorean the significance of the Home Stone, for the non-Gorean has never had a Home Stone, and thus cannot understand its meaning, its reality. I think that I shall not try to make clear what is the significance to a Gorean of the Home Stone. It would be difficult to put into words; indeed, it is perhaps impossible to put into words; I shall not try. I think this is one of the saddest things about the men of Earth, that they have no Home Stone."
"Slave Girl of Gor"
"He circled me, widely. "Beware," he said, "I carry a Home Stone."
I stood back and made no move to draw my weapon. Though I was of the caste of warriors and he of peasants, and I armed and he carrying naught but a crude tool, I would not dispute his passage. One does not lightly dispute the passage of one who carries his Home Stone."
"Nomads of Gor"
"Ar," said one, "is no more."
"She perished in the delta," said another.
"I am surprised to hear such sentiments," I said, "from those who must once have held and kissed the Home Stone of Ar." This was a reference to the citizenship ceremony which, following the oath of allegiance to the city, involves an actual touching of the city's Home Stone. This may be the only time in the life of a citizen of the City that they actually touch the Home Stone. In Ar, as in many Gorean cities, citizenship is confirmed in a ceremony of this sort. Nonperformance of this ceremony, upon reaching intellectual majority, can he a cause for expulsion from the city. The rationale seems to be that the community has a right to expect allegiance from its members."
"Vagabonds of Gor"
"Gorean free women can be difficult and troublesome. But the pain that Gorean men will accept from their free women, in deference to their freedom, and their sharing of a Home Stone, they do not, and will not, accept in their slaves."
"Prize of Gor"
"To make this matter more clear, and to be fairer to the customs of Gor, it should be noted that any woman, any woman whatsoever with whom one does not share a Home Stone, is understood to be fair game for the capture loop."
"Kur of Gor"
"You have no Home Stone," said the bearded man.
I shuddered. In such a fashion he had informed the small fellow that he was not such that one need keep faith with him. There is a Gorean saying that only Priest-Kings, outlaws and slaves lack Home Stones. Strictly, of course, that is an oversimplification. For example, animals of all sorts, such as tarsks and verr, as well as slaves, do not have Home Stones. Too, anyone whose citizenship, for whatever reason, is rescinded or revoked, with due process of law, is no longer entitled to the protections and rights of that polity's Home Stone. That Home Stone is then no longer his. This suggested to me, again, that the small fellow might have been cast out of Tharna, perhaps exiled or banished."
Dancer of Gor
3. What exactly does the word "counter earth" refer to what is "sun sheild" theory..
Counter Earth is Gor and the sun shield theory is the fact that the sun keeps Gor and Earth from visibly seeing Gor. There are references in the books that explain the orbit of Gor is sped up every now and again to accomplish this task. Time specifically the ihn or second is described a little longer or a little shorter than the Earth counterpart. I believe this to be because the planet Gor was sped up or slowed down to accomplish the task of not being able to see Gor from Earth.
"That," he said with animation, "is the Theory of the Sun Shield." He added, "That is why I like to think of the planet as the Counter-Earth, not only because of its resemblance to our native world, but because, as a matter of fact, it is placed as a counterpoise to the Earth. It has the same plane of orbit and maintains its orbit in such a way as always to keep The Central Fire between it and its planetary sister, our Earth, even though this necessitates occasional adjustments in its speed of revolution."
Tarnsman of Gor
"The Gorean Ihn, or second, is only a little longer than the Earth second."
Nomads of Gor
The Gorean day consists of twenty Ahn; the Gorean Ahn, or hour, of forty Ehn, or minutes; the Ehn consists of eighty Ihn, or seconds. An Ihn is slightly less than an Earth second.
Tribesmen of Gor
4. Tell me what does it mean when someone is refused bread, fire and salt?
To be banished from one's Home Stone.
"To my astonishment bread, and salt, and a small, flaming brand were brought to him.
There were shouts of dismay from those assembled.
I could not believe my eyes.
Marlenus took the bread and broke it apart in his large hands. "You are refused bread," said Marlenus, placing the bread back on the tray.
There were shouts of astonishment in the court.
Marlenus had taken the salt, lifted it from the tray, and replaced it. "You are refused salt," he said.
"No!" came the shouts from hundreds of voices. "No!"
Marlenus then, looking at me, took the small brand of fire in his hand. There was a leaf of fire, bright yellow, at its tip. He thrust the brand into the salt, extinguishing it. "You are refused fire," he said.
There was silence in the court of the Ubar.
"You are herewith, by edict of the Ubar," said Marlenus, "commanded from the city of Ar, to depart before sundown of this day, not to return on pain of penalty of torture and impalement."
Assassin of Gor
5. "A gorean may love, but may not_____."
Pity.
"According to the Gorean way of thinking pity humiliates both he who pities and he who is pitied. According to the Gorean way, one may love but one may not pity." Outlaw of Gor
6. What should happen when someones home stone is mentioned?
A sign of respect like standing will en tale. Also if a Gorean mentions carrying his Home Stone, people will move out of his way and will not bother him.
"There is alsoa hierarchy of Home Stones. Men who would fight each other overan acre of land will join together to protect their village or city. "The sharing of a Home Stone is no light thing in a Gorean city." Slavegirl of Gor
"He circled me, widely. "Beware," he said, "I carry a Home Stone."
I stood back and made no move to draw my weapon. Though I was of the caste of warriors and he of peasants, and I armed and he carrying naught but a crude tool, I would not dispute his passage. One does not lightly dispute the passage of one who carries his Home Stone."
"Nomads of Gor"
7. What are the three pillars of Gor?
The three pillers of Gor refer to the Home Stone, Caste, and Slavery.
"Indeed, there is a saying on Gor, a saying whose origin is lost in the past of this strange planet, that one who speaks of Home Stone should stand, for matters of honor are here involved, and honor is respected in the barbaric codes of Gor.
"Tarnsman of Gor
"I have little doubt but what the caste structure contributes considerably to the stability of the Gorean society. Among other things, it reduces competitive chaos, social and economic, and prevents the draining of intelligence and ambition into a small number of envied, prestigious occupations. If one may judge by the outcome of Kaissa tournaments, amateur tournaments as opposed to those in which members of the caste of Players participate, there are brilliant men in most castes.
"Explorers of Gor
'What are my duties?' I asked.
'Exquisite beauty and absolute obedience,' said Sucha."
"Slave Girl of Gor
8. What are the "Knowledges"? and how many are there?
First knowledge is mostly low caste people who think they live on a round flat disc. They also are very superstitious and believe that their first names hold magic. They commonly use "use names" and believe that the higher castes use them too concealing their real names.
"On the level of the First Knowledge, it is maintained that knowing the real name gives one power over a person, a capacity to use that name in spells and insidious magical practices. Perhaps something of the same sort lingers even on our native Earth, where the first name of a person is reserved for use by those who know him intimately and presumably wish him no harm. The second name, which would correspond to the use-name on Gor, is common property, a public sound not sacred or to be protected. At the level of the Second Knowledge, of course, the High Castes, at least in general, recognise the baseless superstition of the Lower Castes and use their own names comparatively freely, usually followed by the name of their city. For example, I would have given my name as Tarl Cabot of Ko-ro-ba, or, more simply, as Tarl of Ko-ro-ba. The Lower Castes, incidentally, commonly believe that the names of the High Castes are actually use-names and that the High Castes conceal the real names." Tarnsmen of Gor
Second knowledge consists of high castes and they are more intelligent. They know they live on a round planet and are told of and know of the possibility of other worlds. They are not superstitious.
"He is from the place called Earth, too," said Marcus. Marcus, of high caste, was familiar with various tenets of the second knowledge, such things as the roundness of his world, its movement in space, and the existence of other planets. On the other hand he remained skeptical of many of these tenets as he found them offensive to common sense. He was particularly suspicious of the claim that the human species had an extraterrestrial origin, namely, that it did not originate on his own world, Gor. It was not that he denied there was a place called Earth but he thought it must be somewhere on Gor, perhaps east of the Voltai Range or south of the Tahari. Marcus and I had agreed not to discuss the issue." Magicians of Gor
Third knowledge is rare and mostly only agents of the Priest Kings. They are aware of the powers of the Priest Kings and the Sardar Mountains. They are aware of trips to Earth for barbarian slaves.
"The classical knowledge distinctions on Gor tend to follow caste lines, the first knowledge being regarded as appropriate for the lower castes and the second knowledge for the higher castes. That there is a third knowledge, that of Priest-Kings, is also a common belief. The distinctions, however, between knowledge tend to be somewhat imperfect and artificial. For example, the second knowledge, while required of the higher castes and not of the lower castes, is not prohibited to the lower castes. It is not a body of secret or jealously guarded truths, for example. Gorean libraries, like the tables of Kaissa tournaments, tend to be open to men of all castes. "Gor, and the world called Earth," she said, "are prizes in a struggle of titantic forces, the forces of those whom you call Priest-Kings and of those whom you think of as others, or whom we might think of as beasts." kajira of Gor
1. What does the word "Gor" mean?
Gor is the planet in which Goreans live. The word is also where they live which is also every Gorean's Home Stone so Gor also means Home Stone.
"Gor," he said, "is the name of this world. In all the languages of this planet, the word means Home Stone." He paused, noting my lack of comprehension. "Home Stone," he repeated. "Simply that."
"Tarnsman of Gor"
2. How important is the homestone to Goreans?
Goreans value their Home Stone. Their Home Stone is where they live and also what they would fight for. The Home Stone is so important that Free Women who share the same Home Stone are protected by the men of that Home Stone so that shame and misfortune would not happen to that Home Stone. Every free person in Gor has a Home Stone unless they are outcasted or an outlaw. To be without a Home Stone means to be an outlaw.
"There is a saying on Gor, a saying whose origin is lost in the past of this strange planet, that one who speaks of Home Stones should stand, for matters of honor are here involved, and honor is respected in the barbaric codes of Gor."
"Tarnsman of Gor"
"Where a man sets his Home Stone, he claims, by law, that land for himself. "The Home Stone says this place is mine, this is my home." "Magicians of Gor"
"Perhaps the most significant difference between the man of Earth and the Gorean is that the Gorean has a Home Stone, and the man of Earth does not. It is difficult to make clear to a non-Gorean the significance of the Home Stone, for the non-Gorean has never had a Home Stone, and thus cannot understand its meaning, its reality. I think that I shall not try to make clear what is the significance to a Gorean of the Home Stone. It would be difficult to put into words; indeed, it is perhaps impossible to put into words; I shall not try. I think this is one of the saddest things about the men of Earth, that they have no Home Stone."
"Slave Girl of Gor"
"He circled me, widely. "Beware," he said, "I carry a Home Stone."
I stood back and made no move to draw my weapon. Though I was of the caste of warriors and he of peasants, and I armed and he carrying naught but a crude tool, I would not dispute his passage. One does not lightly dispute the passage of one who carries his Home Stone."
"Nomads of Gor"
"Ar," said one, "is no more."
"She perished in the delta," said another.
"I am surprised to hear such sentiments," I said, "from those who must once have held and kissed the Home Stone of Ar." This was a reference to the citizenship ceremony which, following the oath of allegiance to the city, involves an actual touching of the city's Home Stone. This may be the only time in the life of a citizen of the City that they actually touch the Home Stone. In Ar, as in many Gorean cities, citizenship is confirmed in a ceremony of this sort. Nonperformance of this ceremony, upon reaching intellectual majority, can he a cause for expulsion from the city. The rationale seems to be that the community has a right to expect allegiance from its members."
"Vagabonds of Gor"
"Gorean free women can be difficult and troublesome. But the pain that Gorean men will accept from their free women, in deference to their freedom, and their sharing of a Home Stone, they do not, and will not, accept in their slaves."
"Prize of Gor"
"To make this matter more clear, and to be fairer to the customs of Gor, it should be noted that any woman, any woman whatsoever with whom one does not share a Home Stone, is understood to be fair game for the capture loop."
"Kur of Gor"
"You have no Home Stone," said the bearded man.
I shuddered. In such a fashion he had informed the small fellow that he was not such that one need keep faith with him. There is a Gorean saying that only Priest-Kings, outlaws and slaves lack Home Stones. Strictly, of course, that is an oversimplification. For example, animals of all sorts, such as tarsks and verr, as well as slaves, do not have Home Stones. Too, anyone whose citizenship, for whatever reason, is rescinded or revoked, with due process of law, is no longer entitled to the protections and rights of that polity's Home Stone. That Home Stone is then no longer his. This suggested to me, again, that the small fellow might have been cast out of Tharna, perhaps exiled or banished."
Dancer of Gor
3. What exactly does the word "counter earth" refer to what is "sun sheild" theory..
Counter Earth is Gor and the sun shield theory is the fact that the sun keeps Gor and Earth from visibly seeing Gor. There are references in the books that explain the orbit of Gor is sped up every now and again to accomplish this task. Time specifically the ihn or second is described a little longer or a little shorter than the Earth counterpart. I believe this to be because the planet Gor was sped up or slowed down to accomplish the task of not being able to see Gor from Earth.
"That," he said with animation, "is the Theory of the Sun Shield." He added, "That is why I like to think of the planet as the Counter-Earth, not only because of its resemblance to our native world, but because, as a matter of fact, it is placed as a counterpoise to the Earth. It has the same plane of orbit and maintains its orbit in such a way as always to keep The Central Fire between it and its planetary sister, our Earth, even though this necessitates occasional adjustments in its speed of revolution."
Tarnsman of Gor
"The Gorean Ihn, or second, is only a little longer than the Earth second."
Nomads of Gor
The Gorean day consists of twenty Ahn; the Gorean Ahn, or hour, of forty Ehn, or minutes; the Ehn consists of eighty Ihn, or seconds. An Ihn is slightly less than an Earth second.
Tribesmen of Gor
4. Tell me what does it mean when someone is refused bread, fire and salt?
To be banished from one's Home Stone.
"To my astonishment bread, and salt, and a small, flaming brand were brought to him.
There were shouts of dismay from those assembled.
I could not believe my eyes.
Marlenus took the bread and broke it apart in his large hands. "You are refused bread," said Marlenus, placing the bread back on the tray.
There were shouts of astonishment in the court.
Marlenus had taken the salt, lifted it from the tray, and replaced it. "You are refused salt," he said.
"No!" came the shouts from hundreds of voices. "No!"
Marlenus then, looking at me, took the small brand of fire in his hand. There was a leaf of fire, bright yellow, at its tip. He thrust the brand into the salt, extinguishing it. "You are refused fire," he said.
There was silence in the court of the Ubar.
"You are herewith, by edict of the Ubar," said Marlenus, "commanded from the city of Ar, to depart before sundown of this day, not to return on pain of penalty of torture and impalement."
Assassin of Gor
5. "A gorean may love, but may not_____."
Pity.
"According to the Gorean way of thinking pity humiliates both he who pities and he who is pitied. According to the Gorean way, one may love but one may not pity." Outlaw of Gor
6. What should happen when someones home stone is mentioned?
A sign of respect like standing will en tale. Also if a Gorean mentions carrying his Home Stone, people will move out of his way and will not bother him.
"There is alsoa hierarchy of Home Stones. Men who would fight each other overan acre of land will join together to protect their village or city. "The sharing of a Home Stone is no light thing in a Gorean city." Slavegirl of Gor
"He circled me, widely. "Beware," he said, "I carry a Home Stone."
I stood back and made no move to draw my weapon. Though I was of the caste of warriors and he of peasants, and I armed and he carrying naught but a crude tool, I would not dispute his passage. One does not lightly dispute the passage of one who carries his Home Stone."
"Nomads of Gor"
7. What are the three pillars of Gor?
The three pillers of Gor refer to the Home Stone, Caste, and Slavery.
"Indeed, there is a saying on Gor, a saying whose origin is lost in the past of this strange planet, that one who speaks of Home Stone should stand, for matters of honor are here involved, and honor is respected in the barbaric codes of Gor.
"Tarnsman of Gor
"I have little doubt but what the caste structure contributes considerably to the stability of the Gorean society. Among other things, it reduces competitive chaos, social and economic, and prevents the draining of intelligence and ambition into a small number of envied, prestigious occupations. If one may judge by the outcome of Kaissa tournaments, amateur tournaments as opposed to those in which members of the caste of Players participate, there are brilliant men in most castes.
"Explorers of Gor
'What are my duties?' I asked.
'Exquisite beauty and absolute obedience,' said Sucha."
"Slave Girl of Gor
8. What are the "Knowledges"? and how many are there?
First knowledge is mostly low caste people who think they live on a round flat disc. They also are very superstitious and believe that their first names hold magic. They commonly use "use names" and believe that the higher castes use them too concealing their real names.
"On the level of the First Knowledge, it is maintained that knowing the real name gives one power over a person, a capacity to use that name in spells and insidious magical practices. Perhaps something of the same sort lingers even on our native Earth, where the first name of a person is reserved for use by those who know him intimately and presumably wish him no harm. The second name, which would correspond to the use-name on Gor, is common property, a public sound not sacred or to be protected. At the level of the Second Knowledge, of course, the High Castes, at least in general, recognise the baseless superstition of the Lower Castes and use their own names comparatively freely, usually followed by the name of their city. For example, I would have given my name as Tarl Cabot of Ko-ro-ba, or, more simply, as Tarl of Ko-ro-ba. The Lower Castes, incidentally, commonly believe that the names of the High Castes are actually use-names and that the High Castes conceal the real names." Tarnsmen of Gor
Second knowledge consists of high castes and they are more intelligent. They know they live on a round planet and are told of and know of the possibility of other worlds. They are not superstitious.
"He is from the place called Earth, too," said Marcus. Marcus, of high caste, was familiar with various tenets of the second knowledge, such things as the roundness of his world, its movement in space, and the existence of other planets. On the other hand he remained skeptical of many of these tenets as he found them offensive to common sense. He was particularly suspicious of the claim that the human species had an extraterrestrial origin, namely, that it did not originate on his own world, Gor. It was not that he denied there was a place called Earth but he thought it must be somewhere on Gor, perhaps east of the Voltai Range or south of the Tahari. Marcus and I had agreed not to discuss the issue." Magicians of Gor
Third knowledge is rare and mostly only agents of the Priest Kings. They are aware of the powers of the Priest Kings and the Sardar Mountains. They are aware of trips to Earth for barbarian slaves.
"The classical knowledge distinctions on Gor tend to follow caste lines, the first knowledge being regarded as appropriate for the lower castes and the second knowledge for the higher castes. That there is a third knowledge, that of Priest-Kings, is also a common belief. The distinctions, however, between knowledge tend to be somewhat imperfect and artificial. For example, the second knowledge, while required of the higher castes and not of the lower castes, is not prohibited to the lower castes. It is not a body of secret or jealously guarded truths, for example. Gorean libraries, like the tables of Kaissa tournaments, tend to be open to men of all castes. "Gor, and the world called Earth," she said, "are prizes in a struggle of titantic forces, the forces of those whom you call Priest-Kings and of those whom you think of as others, or whom we might think of as beasts." kajira of Gor